tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post8708740481795525320..comments2023-11-02T11:19:25.832-05:00Comments on Need More Rage: Is Where Ratshag Talks Ta The CrabRatshaghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12111084510465688124noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-56039090643537562062011-09-06T08:13:08.311-05:002011-09-06T08:13:08.311-05:00I think you summed up the core problem with WoW ri...I think you summed up the core problem with WoW right now. Blizzard designers and developers do not play the game the same way that 90% of their player base does. As a result they are completely disconnected from what the core actually wants.<br /><br />Great post RatBelghasthttp://aggronaut.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-87020103811903973492011-09-03T16:54:50.068-05:002011-09-03T16:54:50.068-05:00I'd call your "good sir" and applaud...I'd call your "good sir" and applaud you, but I doubt that's the sort of speech you stand for.<br /><br />But well said, good point, and right on! My job as a tank isn't all this "not dying" nonsense. That is the healer's job! My job is to keep everyone else from dying. That means moving the thing the DPS wants to hit so they follow and stand where they are supposed to stand. Crowd control is ME, controlling the crowd of DPS.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-21594572119310233772011-09-02T04:20:42.886-05:002011-09-02T04:20:42.886-05:00right on spot as you are so often!
it seems we are...right on spot as you are so often!<br />it seems we are reaching a point were switching to defensive stance well have auto-aggro implemented and this just sucks. The art of tanking for me was doing all the fancy positioning, charging around, taunting, dancing, singing, whatever needed to be done stuff while maintaining enough threat to avoid the squishies in the back being eaten alive by some big badass ugly ogre no-one else has the guts to meet face to crutch but me.<br />Taking threat out of the equation because it seems a majority of them squishies forgot how to manage their aggro and use their utility stuff while they learned their "perfect" target-dummie rotation for max damage. Where are the days when anyone had to and was willing to do more then some stupid spreadsheet told them to?<br />Kromek (dwarfen warrior tank, getting hit on the head since 2007)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-56369514542899044562011-09-01T10:50:27.299-05:002011-09-01T10:50:27.299-05:00@Kirk What Needs A Nickname
Always good ta hear f...@Kirk What Needs A Nickname<br /><br />Always good ta hear from ya, bro!<br /><br />@Anon<br /><br />I does miss the elegance of 9-6-9-6-9<br /><br />@Zwingli, Kayeri, Twice, Spinks<br /><br />Thankee, everyones<br /><br />@Bitter Fig<br /><br />I prolly wouldn't have twisted me knickers if the crab hadn't opened with a vision of tanks "just standing there." Was a pretty clear statement what he pictures tanking as bein' mostly about standing face-ta-groin with the bad dude, hittin' him with yer axe and sunderin' his 'nads. I agrees, doin that with just random key mashing would get dull as shite pretty fast. But if'n ya starts puttin' in too many interestings stuff ta do whiles yer there, then pretty soon ya gets to a point where the tank <i>needs</i> fer ta do these "interesting" keyboard combos. And then he cain't be spendin' too much time managing the flow of the battle, and so encounters gots ta be kept simple so's the tank don't die, and ya ends up with yer tank anchored in one spot. And that would suck, no matter how many spiffy keyboard moves we get out of it.Ratshaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12111084510465688124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-60318334018045505852011-09-01T08:45:42.728-05:002011-09-01T08:45:42.728-05:00Advocatings of the Devilish One here:
While the j...Advocatings of the Devilish One here:<br /><br />While the joys of tanking indeed come from more subtle things than the basic rotation, there ought to be something meaningful you can gain by following a good rotation rather than just mashing at buttons on the keyboard.<br /><br />For a dps, if you just mash wildly instead of watching carefully, lining up key abilities, etc, your damage goes down. For a healer, if you're just mashing and not watching for procs, using lower-cost heals in lower-need situations, etc, folks will die from lack of heals or lack of mana. For a tank? The Crab's right that there ought to be some sort of reward for not using a flock of drinking birds to punch your keys for you, but there isn't much of one right now.<br /><br />Does this mean that they ought to ignore all the things about tanking which are Epic, the timely movements, crazy pulls, cunning pickups, and utility cooldowns? Of course not. There needs to be more of that coolness. However, there needs to be something good you can get out of executing properly rather than simply slamming down all the buttons at once.The Bitter Fignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-7432870942615226512011-09-01T05:54:36.585-05:002011-09-01T05:54:36.585-05:00Good post, and really good point about the LFG too...Good post, and really good point about the LFG tool. Tanking won't be what it used to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-83930838081116436472011-08-31T22:45:09.295-05:002011-08-31T22:45:09.295-05:00Amen Brudder.
I'm all for a change to a more ...Amen Brudder.<br /><br />I'm all for a change to a more "active" form of Tanking, but it isn't going to be an easy move.<br /><br />And your analysis of the "raids Heroic content...which is all of them" comment is right on the damn money.Twicehttp://www.parallelguild.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-39137687797548725062011-08-31T19:03:57.231-05:002011-08-31T19:03:57.231-05:00::applauding::
Well spoken, Ratshag, we can only ...::applauding::<br /><br />Well spoken, Ratshag, we can only hope the crab reads this... :)Kayerinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-67417187992699668652011-08-31T15:43:25.326-05:002011-08-31T15:43:25.326-05:00That is as epic as always! You're right on tar...That is as epic as always! You're right on target.<br /><br />ZwingliAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-39746730831919902922011-08-31T15:33:55.087-05:002011-08-31T15:33:55.087-05:00I agree with you, that I'm not enthused by pre...I agree with you, that I'm not enthused by pressing buttons.<br /><br />I started tanking as a pally during BC, back when pallies pushed four buttons every ten seconds:<br /><br />Judge/re-seal<br />Consecrate<br />Holy Shield<br /><br />I liked it, because it gave me time to think and to watch the game.<br /><br />The pally redesign added many more buttons to press, but I felt the class is more hectic, and not really any more fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3607873303433033031.post-17796322740178063282011-08-31T15:16:45.208-05:002011-08-31T15:16:45.208-05:00/applause
Kirk what ain't gotta nickname/applause<br /><br />Kirk what ain't gotta nicknameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com